Uturn: 30 feet down that's Approx 10 degrees farneheit.

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People say we are destroying the environment. I beg to differ: I think we're destroying ourselves, and taking most of the environment with us. Example: Global warming is not the issue. Neither is 'biodiversity loss'. It's how we organize ourselves as a species that's the problem. Is our social reality sustainable? No, and here's why: smoke from a machine, 'development' and habitat loss, these are more the symptoms, the physical manifestations (or Entropy) of a deeper societal process which is to increase productivity and profit, i.e., to increase the concentration of power and energy in the hands of a few individuals - at everyone else's expense. Agree to change that imbalance of power, to modify the current power system and install a true democracy where power is shifted from the wallet back to the ballot, to be shared by all, and you will see a lot less smoke. Unknowingly perhaps, you will be agreeing to a sustainable world made of ecological, human societies - without anthropogenic climate change, without species loss. Without war? Onward thru the BS -- as in belief system.

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30 feet down that's Approx 10 degrees farneheit.

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